Q&A forum: RAO calculator for floating vessels
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... i'm working over a ansys program to do mane analysis of the powers effect on the ships. so that why i need a trail of the ship motion calculator v1 program, to try the program if its higher aqquracy than Ansys or not.

There is no such thing as accuracy in vessel motion calculations. Sea-states are based upon statistics, which is nothing more than an educated guess.
Because a vessel never finishes its motion cycle with any wave in any sea-state, its orientation at the start of a cycle is impossible to define.
Mathematicians have developed many vessel motion theories over the years, some will work better for particular vessel properties and a given 'sea-state' than others, but that doesn't make it more (or less) accurate.
ANSYS applies one theory and we apply another, whilst they are both valid, they will work differently for different waves/sea-states.
Because of this unreliability of sea-state statistics, CalQlata's vessel motions (RAO) calculator calculates for a single wave, it does not apply sea-states.

... I’m picking this up again and displacement (vessel mass) I would expect to be a fixed unit. Please advise whether it is in tonnes or kgs.

The displacement in the default calculation must be kilograms because the water density is in kilograms (per cubic metre).
However, you may change the units to whatever you prefer, but you must be consistent. If, for example, you prefer tonnes, the water density should be entered in tonnes (per cubic metre).

I cannot work out how the quick load facility works between the RAO and vessel motion calculator works.

Ok great, thanks got it working.

... make sure that the decimal is a ‘point’ not a ‘comma’ in your computer language?
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You will see in image-1 (attached) that the input data in RAO and Vessac are compatible.
In the image-2 (attached) the RAO input data has been modified. The calculation is saved (into its Data file), and Vessac then uploads from the RAO data file.
If you haven't saved the RAO calculation to disk, Vessac will simply load the old data.

A customer has identified an error in this calculator (which has now been corrected).

Should a customer that has previously purchased a copy of this calculator, like a copy of the revised version, please get in touch by email and a copy will be sent free of charge.

Trying to use Vessacc and RAO we found that applying the DVN rules was giving lower results than the harmonic for small waves.

We bought another version through one of my young engineers (Vasilis Papadopoulos) and then we found that there was a problem in the previous editions of Vessacc and RAO which I got.

We check also the waves but we found no problem between the 2 editions.

I am sending you, for your consideration, the slides with the comparison, together with the excel file of the data. The results are for a specific angle μ (angle of wave direction in respect to vessel direction), and a specific angle θ (angle through the wave). For different angles you get bigger or smaller x,y,z components for acceleration.

Thank you for the detailed spreadsheet. It is very helpful. I have taken the input and output data and compared them with my own comparative calculation in the attached spreadsheet. The only two differences are for roll and pitch, which I can explain as follows:
Roll and Pitch are normally calculated without the inclusion of the following particular dynamic amplification factor;
γ(Ω,ξ) = 1 / √[(1 - Ω²)² + 4 * (Ratio * Ω)²]
which was the procedure I adopted in my first calculator. However, I have always felt a little uneasy about ignoring the above factor despite it being general practice.
So I have included it in my latest calculator and roll and pitch are now modified thus;
roll or pitch = (γ(Ω,ξ) * α) * Cos(ωe * pₑ * θ / 2π - Φ)
Therefore, you should expect that Rᴿᴬ (roll) & Pᴿᴬ (pitch) will be different between the new calculator and the earlier version. I would normally (but not necessarily) expect the new calculator to predict higher roll and pitch RAs than before.

It is important to understand that vessel response amplitudes are not an exact science. Various theories have been established according to personal preferences.
None of them are correct. They are simply a means of anticipating vessel response due to mass displacement.
Some theories appear a better fit with particular vessels and seastates than others.
Given that no two following waves are the same, RA & RAO theories can never be better than a calculated guestimate.
Personally, I feel happier with my latest approach. But beware of reading too much accuracy into the results. Like vortex shedding, if you get too close to a vessel's natural frequency, RA and RAO calculations will become meaningless.

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